tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18495514.post4957357053488519576..comments2023-10-20T09:23:44.918-07:00Comments on Surviving Within Civilization: Two Authors Two VisionsCurthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18371882930427656081noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18495514.post-77804978873547002452008-08-31T07:33:00.000-07:002008-08-31T07:33:00.000-07:00Dear Filip T,In my last post I forgot to ask, what...Dear Filip T,<BR/><BR/>In my last post I forgot to ask, what author do you agree with more in this case?Curthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18371882930427656081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18495514.post-52439695427947573402008-08-31T07:31:00.000-07:002008-08-31T07:31:00.000-07:00Dear Filip T,You asked: "which author do you agree...Dear Filip T,<BR/><BR/>You asked: "which author do you agree with more in this case?"<BR/><BR/>That's a tough question, and I don't think I have a clear answer. <BR/><BR/>I just reread "If The Give You Line Paper Write Sideways" and "Beyond Civilization", and I have been thinking a lot about DQ's point that it's pointless to fight the existing reality while the majority of people are thinking like Takers. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I think a lot about what Derrick Jensen has said about bashing people that are involved with attacking the actual infrastructure of civilization itself. He has made the point over and over that this is important work and needs to be done. And by saying what they are doing is useless takes away from the WORK that they do. I mean how would you feel if someone was bashing you for the work that you do? Or what if they said it was useless?<BR/><BR/>Those are just a few thoughts I have about it.Curthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18371882930427656081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18495514.post-63786368164878285242008-08-29T10:59:00.000-07:002008-08-29T10:59:00.000-07:00Curt, which author do you agree with more in this ...Curt, which author do you agree with more in this case?Filip T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04595185673383632520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18495514.post-58612636301941937622008-08-29T08:02:00.000-07:002008-08-29T08:02:00.000-07:00Interesting. I've always wondered what Quinn thoug...Interesting. I've always wondered what Quinn thought of Jensen's work. I think Jensen's reply would be that we can't be worried whether or not those in the future re-build civilization - we need to stop the damage now. But I certainly see Quinn's point. Until the mindset is changed, civilization will always return.Peter Dodsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15907889274467230962noreply@blogger.com